As well as the technological side of the Challenges system - which my colleague Jaysen has blogged about elsewhere - the beta development phase is giving us a useful insight into the way users are likely to behave and what their expectations are.

Although our programmers look slightly pale every time it's mentioned, in the end, we want the Challenges system to be all things for all people. That means providing, at the very least, a level of functionality that allows the existing challenges that have sprung up on the forums to migrate across to a new home. But we also want it to be a system that encourages new challenges, beyond what has previously been possible, to evolve. And that means it should encourage different types of behaviour. For instance, the first few challenges put no limitations on when the photos were taken, allowing people to rummage around in their back-catalogues and databases to find their best images that fit the theme. And some very impressive images were submitted, right from day-one.

However, the challenges shouldn't only be about providing another pat-on-the-back for confident, experienced photographers. Additionally we wanted challenges that encouraged people to try something new or, at least, have to start with a blank memory card. With this in mind, the option was created that only allowed entries that had been taken within the timeframe of the challenge itself, that way, there's some encouragement to go out and take some pictures. But it required a degree of trust.

Setting some hurdles

When the first time-limited challenge opened, there was nothing at all to prevent people entering images taken before the challenge started. We depended entirely on people's honesty and that people would read the rules. This didn't prove to be the case: a large number of images were submitted to the panning challenge that had been taken before the challenge started. This prompted two modifications - a cross-check of the date-taken field of the files EXIF metadata, and decision to display the rules more prominently when images were being submitted. This limited the likelihood that people were unaware of the rule and warned them if they tried to breach it.

Of course, it's a trivial matter to remove EXIF data from an image and, sure enough, some entrants chose to do just that. There was, however, a significant drop in the number of people submitting ineligible images (and my faith in the innate goodness of people assures me that this means lots of people just hadn't noticed the rules, not that they can't be bothered to remove the metadata).

Which leads us to ponder what should be done with the people who continue to try to work around the rules. As I say, ideally we'd like to have challenges that encourage people to take new photographs, rather than always rewarding the photographers with the most varied portfolio, so there is some need to prevent people trying to game the system. This could include adding an additional hurdle, such as challenges demanding EXIF remain intact on all entered images, but that doesn't rule out the really persistent participant (And it'd be really sad if the winners of these 'get-out-there-and-shoot' challenges were the ones with a varied portfolio and some computing nous).

The carrot and the stick

So, if it's virtually impossible to impose technological hurdles that exclude all ineligible images, what else can and should we do to discourage people from circumventing the rules? Perhaps, then, we should look to the human side of the equation. Since these challenges offer the chance to bathe in the adulation of your peers (all the more so if challenge wins are displayed in users profiles), then perhaps the ultimate deterrent would be the risk of being shown-up in front of those same peers. And I'm not necessarily suggesting that people should be permanently tainted with a mark saying they've cheated, but perhaps the risk of their previous wins being nullified would work (if strong evidence of disingenuous behaviour came to light). There are enough other users - and other competitors - that would recognise an image previously posted in the forums, or previous challenges. Enough scrutiny that a long-passed sporting event would be recognized, for instance.

Such a system, if users felt it was needed, would utilise the three elements used to discourage disruptive behaviour in the wider world: a hurdle to discourage malfeasance, the threat of some kind of punishment and, perhaps most importantly, a reasonable likelihood of being caught.

Public opinion: a great leveller

Of course, it may not be necessary. The nice thing that the beta has shown is that voting, as well as celebrating the many superb images that have been submitted, has proved pretty adept at ignoring or marking-down images that don't fit with the criteria of a challenge. The panning challenge had some submissions that, though not contravening any rules, weren't quite what I had in mind when I set it up. I didn't feel it was my place to disqualify these images, just because they didn't fit with what I was trying to achieve, but it's heartening to see that the voting public can reach consensus on the matter.

Rolling fun

Rolling fun by Mariuss, winner of the Panning challenge

However, much more than any of these concerns and philosophical questions, the thing that has shone through from the Challenges beta so far is the talent and enthusiasm that it has revealed. All the challenges, regardless of how proscriptive and restrictive they've been, have attracted some excellent entries and plenty of votes to help make sure the best images have done well. So let me congratulate all our winners so far and in particular Mariuss, the winner of my panning challenge. And, from a purely personal perspective, I'd like to thank all the voters who helped make sure that the winning shot was one with a bicycle in it.

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The irrelevancy of submissions is getting worse - "Interconnected" is full of completely disconnected images which really should be removed.

Seeing so many images up for voting and even gaining high placements or winning over the last few challenges has made the whole thing pointless for me. I stopped entering a while ago, and now feel there's no point in voting either.

Guys. Who cares? I think it's dumb that your challenges require it be shot during the challenge. Who thought of that rule, anyway? For example, your "A Cold Feeling" challenge -- Portland, OR, had the biggest winter storm in *40 years* about a month ago. I got some awesome pix during that. Then it all melted. I felt crappy that I could not enter that challenge. They were recent enough photos! How about just requiring people to have taken the photos in the last six months, or the last year? Isn't the point of the challenge to show off your current skill level and gear anyway?


This might sound cruel, but the simplest method is the best. Just disqualify any entry that was taken outside the challenge time window.

Disqualify any entry that is unverifable. For whatever reason. If people are really motivated to enter and win contests, they will find a way to preserve their EXIF data. You will probably see threads offering advice on this in the Open Talk forum if you impose this rule.

Not the right place to talk about th eissue, but haven't you considered removing outlier scores from final score? I mean, an amazing image like Matt Anderson's in the monchrome challenge getting 1point? That's likely someone trying to lower that image's final score. many other cases like that. It's easy to do, just use a standard criterion, like a cote is an outlier if more than 2 SD from mean, above or below (but mainly below, where I think the problem is). many images would be repositioned, not by a large ammount, but would (5th and 6th in that challenge, for example, if 0.5 score were to be removed).

I like the hundreds of pictures in the challenges. I don't really care if I looked at everything and voted for the really best shot. I'm just enjoying the large variety. Let's not take this too seriously. It's only photography. (Ooooh, that's gonna get a comment. ;-) )

Ready123 - the complaint system is working from the outset. It's up to the individual challenge setters to moderate the entries and I'll admit some of us have taken our eyes off the ball, for which I apologise.

I tried to eliminate blatantly irrelevant entries but I'd given such imprecise wording for the challenge description that it wasn't always easy to judge. Certainly something I need to think about.

Noisynoodle - I hope this also addresses your concerns.

Renato - not a bad idea, I'll put it forward.

And Steve, er, thanks for your contribution.

The top 2 finishers of the 'Interconnected' challenge did not meet the published challenge and neither had anything to do with 'communication'. Is this the way future challenges are going to be run, i.e. I can just ignore the detail of the topic?

The winning image arguably does fit the theme - the rules said to think laterally about the theme of interconnectedness and technology. It's fair to say a picture of a web is fair interpretation of that theme.

However, I can see how many people who entered that challenge would be pretty unimpressed given how many patently irrelevant images remained in contention. As I say, some of us have taken our eyes off the ball and I'm sorry about that.

I got a lot of information and stuff from this site.

The time limits on the challenges tend to be geared at Northern Hemisphere photographers. For example those dealing with bush fiires in Australia probably had a hard time finding material for the Cold Feeling challenge within the given timeframe.
As for using the EXIF, this is really a waste of time. It is so easy to edit the information. Would this also exclude anyone shooting on a non-digital camera, or are they already excluded anyway?

RE: Removing EXIF Data

If you Save For Web in Photoshop, EXIF data is not retained, unless I'm mistaken. So it's perfectly understandable that most images submitted would not have EXIF data. It's not that anyone's necessarily trying to cheat.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think it might help, if you have to type the date (when the picture was taken) in a field. It makes cheating harder, if you have to lie. And you have to invent a date. I think uploading a picture without Exif is much easier than typing a fake date.

I notice that many top-rated photos in the challenges (tho not all) are taken on high priced SLRs; yet the list of discussion forums shows that many users of the site own compacts, or point and shoot cameras.
Would it be a good idea ot restrict some challenges to pictures taken on inexpensive equipment? I don't agree with the poster who said that the point of challenges is to show off one's skills and gear. To show a good eye for a picture might be the point for some. To do well with the gear one has.

Putting up restrictions makes it a challenge!! So just go for it.

I do wonder what kind of photo's might be entered if the there was no RAW editing allowed but you would have to rely on the in camera JPEG engine. In that way I think the PP professionals would have a real challenge to get to know there camera.

While you are in an uproar about ineligible photos getting in, get ready for voting blocks. That is something a programmer can do something about.

Digg is submerged in these issues and have figured out some relatively effective strategies.

Good luck!

How about 2 categories within a restricted time challenge: competition and exhibition. In those challenges, only the ones with exif data intact and conforming end up in the competition, and all others automatically go to the exhibition.

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