The level of interest in our Canon 18-200mm review has persuaded us that we should test a few more superzooms in comparison  (the great strength of the widget is that we don't need to have the lenses in-house simultaneously for side-by-side shooting). So expect to see some leading 18-2x0 mm zooms interspersed with our still-ongoing series of 50mm primes. Lenses on the shortlist for reviews in the near future include the following:

50mm Lenses:

  • Pentax 50mm F1.4 (on K20D)
  • Sony/Minolta 50mm F1.4 (on FF and APS-C)
  • Canon 50mm F1.8 II
  • Nikon 50mm F1.8

Superzooms:

  • Sigma 18-200mm OS
  • Tamron 18-270mm VC
  • Sony/Pentax/Tamron 18-250mm

(The Panasonic/Leica 14-150mm would be an obvious comparison for Four Thirds users, but its limited availability and high price will necessarily affect the final decision on whether we review it.)

At some point we still hope to test the Sony 70-200mm F2.8G on both FF and APS-C, to see if it can justify its stratospheric price-tag in comparison to the competition from Tamron and Sigma.

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On the subject of lens reviews, it'd be great if you could review some full frame standard zooms. I think this is an area that there's increased interest in lately, for obvious reasons.

Thanks, Dave

Awesome. And the blog is a great new idea.

I think I'm not alone in that I'd love to see a review or two of some of the "heavy hitters" in the lens world. Obviously the Canon super-telephoto line is far too expensive for likely a large portion of this site, however it would be great to see if these lenses are really worthy of the amazing praise they get across the board — and are they worth their monumental price tags.

So far I feel like the majority of the lens reviews have been for pretty weak products, besides the 70-200 series. I'd love to see more Canon vs Nikon in terms of their top of the line stuff in the standard zoom range.

And hell, why not throw the Canon 50mm f1.2 and one of those $3000 Leica 50mms in the test as well? People want to know if those extreme price tags are worth it!

Good to see that you will be testing the Sony and Pentax 50mm lenses. It's also nice to see that you are going to test the Sony 70-200 G SSM. I agree that the lens is more than the Sigma and Tamron, but is now, finally, competitive to the Canon and Nikon lenses.

"stratospheric" merely serves to create the illusion that Sony are overpriced...

I thought Sony 70-200/2.8 price has dropped in the past month, hasn't it ?

Yes it has. It is now around £1150 in the UK- in other words very similar to the Canon and Nikon flashes.

The Sony 70-200mm F2.8 does indeed cost about the same as the image-stabilised Canon and Nikon equivalents (although rather more than the non-stabilised Canon). But the big advantage of in-body IS is that all lenses are stabilised, so it competes with the Tamron and Sony lenses on a much more equal footing. Compared to these two, it's double the price or more, and you don't appear to gain much in functionality for your money. That's the comparison I will necessarily have to make in reviewing the lens; what does $1800 for the Sony buy you over $800 for the Sigma?

I remember that someone once said that they didn't want to give heads up about what was going to be reviewed next at dpreivew, but I'm glad you guys have changed your mind.

Glad to see fairness across brands as well in the lens more or less.

While I'm hopeful you guy's will get to Ultrawides eventually, I haven't a clue how high that is on your list. Certainly the lens segment I care the most about.

Panasonic/Leica 14-150mm but its limited availability and high price will necessarily affect the final decision? How? you get hans on any Canon or Nikon high end-high price camera on the fly why don't put a little of you to get that 14-150mm and the 25mm 1.4? as this site is so popular you clould call Panasonic and may be have more chance than my self a simple end user don't you think? there is Zuiko 18-180 too. What happen there DPR team? tha big selling brands are not suposed to need that big support, but to make people know there is a bigger horizon full of choices so do the job right folks. Be fair with the competition and customers.

I'm very glad to see that there's an editorial blog now. The editorial thinking has been a bit opaque in the past, if only because it hasn't been explicit. Now we can see the reasoning behind policies (and even comment on them).

As far as the lenses go, comparing the Tamron 18-250mm against the image stabilised 18-270 is going to be very interesting. Some have suggested putting extra floating elements into superzooms compromise optical performance on a species of lens where this is always an issue. It will provide an interesting clue.

On the Sony 70-200 f2.8, then I hope that we will also see the Tamron & Sigma equivalents tested on the A900. The performance on other mounts (especially AF, but probably other factors) might not be such a good guide to comparative performance levels.

However, the list of lenses that need testing are endless, although I assume each is a lot less work than a DSLR test.

I think it would also be nice to have the possibility for readers to vote which review they are most interested in. You could list a number of possible review candidates for the next few months and find out what reviews the visitors of DPR would like to see the most.

Sorry, using the browser back button seems to re-post the comment. Maybe something for the developers to check?

Why not review cheap lens? I gona buy Sony A-200 , for amature photography and I not buy any of super duper costly lens, only some in range about 200 $. I will glad to see best buy lens in future review. Mostly who buy cheap body not gonna pay more for lens.

Do you keep all your lens' after reviewing them? Due to high demand for the 14-150, I'm sure you could hawk it on e-bay for about as much as you paid for it.

I'd be a really interesting comparison I think. I'm also sure many owners on your boards would gladly lend it to dpreview for review (though that's an assumption). The lens owners hold in high regard, I'm sure they'd like to see how it stacks up.

Re: the Panasonic 14-150mm, we'd have no problem getting a sample to review, but we have to decide whether it's of sufficient interest and benefit to our readership as a whole to commit the resources. That's not trivial by the way; that four page Canon 18-200 review is based on no fewer than 790 test images in the studio, backed up by over 500 shots simply using the lens and seeing how it performs in the real world. And no we don't keep the lenses, they (naturally) get returned to the manufacturer or distributer who provided them.

As for whether in-lens IS has any negative impact on image quality, we already have plenty of data to suggest it makes very little difference at all. It's easy to make this comparison in the lens review widget, e.g. Nikon 70-200 VR vs Tamron, Canon 70-200 IS vs Sigma, Canon 18-55 IS vs Pentax, Nikon 18-55 VR vs Olympus 14-42, Canon 17-85 IS vs Sony 16-105. Overall this shows interesting differences, but nothing which can be ascribed to IS. Of course we also know Canon's 18-55 IS is much better than the older version, but there's no way that could be used to argue that addition of in-lens IS improves optical quality.

Would love it if you guys would decide to review the 14-150 too.

Hi DPreview!

I suggest that you include the Sigma 50/2.8 Macro DG EX in your roadmap and test it against all mounts (Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony/Minolta and Sigma) and frame sizes (1x, 1.3x, 1.5x, 1.6x).

There is a lot of criticism in some dp camera forums about comparing camera bodies using different optics. This can be eliminated if dp tests all new bodies with the same lens. The Sigma 50/2.8 has a good reputation and can be used with all mounts and frame sizes except Four-Thirds.

Including it in the lens test roadmap would be the first (validating) step.

I left you on the feedback page a request for a more standardized "bokeh" test. Having that it would be easier to compare two lenses with similar specs from that point of view.
Thank you for your great work and good luck!

This is very very cool indeed having a blog! Even though the lens is not out yet, I am very much looking forward to a review on the new Nikon 50mm 1.4G prime lens. I can't wait how it's optics have improved over the 1.4D!

Hi,

More Superzooms is a great idea :)

A single test of Canon 18-200mm floats on air but similar tests with Tamron 18-270mm, Sigma 18-200mm and Sony 18-250mm may help to fix the calibration point.

For example, according to my experience with Tamron 18-250mm, the barrel distortion of Canon 18-200mm at 18mm looks quite large, but I am not sure.

Superzooms are really handy in many applications, but ofcourse, they have certain limitations also.

Great idea on testing superzooms. I'd love to see you test Tamron's 28–300 VC on a full-frame camera.

I would really like to see how the Sigma 1.4/50 performs on a high resolution FF body (Sony A900, or Canon 5D2).

I would very much like to see a review of the Leica 14-150. The reason is that this could be the lens that shows that a superzoom does not have to be a collection of compromises. OK, it's expensive, but which lens that represents the top of its class isn't?

I also want to see a pany 14-150mm review. As a compromise though, you may consider reviewing the oly 18-180mm; another superzoom that is very economical.

I'll take this aas an opportunity to thank dpreview, and especially Andy for reviewing lenses so well.

If you are reviewing 70-200 constant aperture lenses, why not review the 35-100/2 Zuiko? It's only slightly more expensive than the Canon and Nikon offerings.

I would also be very interested to see how good the 14-150 from Lieca/Panasonic is..

Simply as another has said, it would be insteresting to see how good a 10x really can be, I have a feeling it may be the top of the heap...

I agree, the 14-150 would be a very interesting review. Not just for those of us that are considering this lens and have a hard time finding out if is is worth the money since there are few/no real reviews, but also because super zoom lenses are becoming very popular, whilst their quality seems to leave much to be desired. Designing such lenses is a big challenge, so seeing if the most costly of the bunch actually performs better than the competition is very exciting.

Also, I love the lens reviews in general, so please keep them coming. They have added a lot to the already tremendous value of this site.

Good development - thanks!

I'm not so sure about the 50mm reviews - most people I know buy zooms, and in any case I would have thought the major players' 50mm lenses very similar, and not a deal breaker. But i guess you are looking to build this over time, and are starting ...somewhere.

I imagine that if you like a particular body (esp from a more minor SLR player like Sony), you want to be sure that the lenses that go with it are up to scratch.

In terms of the future, what about lens reviews based on sales within particular segments? (Is this why the 50mm lenses have been selected?)

PS - can we have a wider comments box please!

I would love to see these lenses reviewed as I plan to upgrade to a 24-70/2.8 and would like to hear your lens review of this lens class.

1. Canon 24-70/2.8 USM
2. Nikon 24-70/2.8 VR
3. Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX
4. Tamron 28-75/2.8 XR

Just an idea but I think it would be welcomed by users.

Thanks, Josh

Will dpreview review the Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS USM lens? and as well as those similar lens from Nikon, Tamron, and Sigma.

These lenses are much discussed in the forum, so such reviews may help in making buying decision for those people who are interested on it.

So, to me, the $64 question is whether you're going to wring out the full frame Canon lenses with the new 5D MkII when that becomes available. Of course, that would make it a little tougher to compare with any Nikon results but sense would tell us that even the best lenses may run out of gas at the higher resolution.

Hi Andy

Nice to see these features.

I would like to see some reviews of the 4/3rds "must-have" lenses, in no particular order, such as the new/old 14-54, 50-200, 7-14, 9-18, 70-300, 11-22 and perhaps even some of the super pro-grade lenses such as the 14-35, 35-100 and 150/f2, that at least some of us can afford to buy.

Also including some of the Sigma, Leica (and Panasonic Lumix) lenses for the 4/3rds system as well; such as the Sigma 30/f1.4, PL 25/f1.4 and the Sigma macro offerings.

regards John

As someone else mentioned, the Tamron 28-300 VC is getting alot of use on full-frame cameras (5D, D700, D3), along with alot of positive comments, it would be nice to see how the lens actually rates in a review.

Definitely need some help on wide angle zooms. 24mm equivalent on out, perhaps. Very confusing category.

Simon Joinson - Panasonic G1 review
Since the Panasonic LX3 review has been released, how close are we to seeing the full G1 review, and will it include both the 14-45mm and 45-200mm lenses?

I also would like to see a Pana Leica 14-150/Olympus 18-180 review for two reasons :

1. To compare the 4/3 format superzooms performance with the APS-C superzooms performance.
2. To compare Pana Leica's optical design with Olympus' optical design.

Also particularly interested in Panasonic micro four thirds 14-150. Currently looking at G1 (have FZ20)

Two lenses I am really interested to see how you would review.
1. The famous Tamron 17-50 f/2.8. Is the problem with focusing really that bad?
By any chance do you thing there will be a version with vibration reduction mechanism released?
2. The new Zuiko 14-54 f/2.8-3.5 - on paper it looks like a pretty cool and fast lens to carry around.
Thanks. The Blog idea is great! You could also add readers' comment section at the end of each review as well.

I would be interested to see a review of standard primes for the AP-C SLR, Nikon in particular. Something in the range of 24mm to 35mm. Nikon has it's own lens in this range from f2 - f2.8 and Sigma/Tamron/Tokina also have variants. But which is better for sharpness, CA, distortion, value for money, etc. I am really looking for a lens with excellent edge to edge sharpness for group photography.

This is a great initiative. Good to see more openness in what you do.

Coming to lens reviews, is it possible to include the Zuiko glasses too?
Obviously I am an Olympus user and fan and would like to see your expert reviews on some of those lenses.

You've already got a couple of votes for the Leica 14-150, and I honestly believe that their reasoning is a very valid point. Although not an M series classic, the Leica (made by Panasonic) is still a Leica & as such should be able to hold it's own well above the other standard 10x zooms out there.
I personally am very interested in seeing the lens reviewed, but I think objectively, for those who are asking why this Leica optic is costing so much more than it's Oly counterpart, or the more expansive Tamron or the baseline Canon/Nikon etc... It's only fair that this lens be put through its paces & compared against the others.

Not sure why you bother with the 50mm tests. If you have, say, a Nikon and you want a 50mm, you buy the Nikkor. Whether it's better or not than the Canon lens is of no importance, because you won't buy the camera on the basis of the quality of a 50mm. The zooms, on the other hand, do make a difference - you might very well buy a D90 rather than a EOS40 because the Nikkor 16-85mm or 18-200mm are better, cheaper or both than Canon's nearest equivalents. Or vice versa, before Canon users start snarling at me.

Also, reviews of the cheapies (Sigma's 18-200, for instance) would be great, to see if the Nikkor / Canon lenses really are worth more than twice as much!

Two other brief comments. One, great site. Congratulations.

Two, please drop the Highly Recommended (Just) tag. Highly Recommended should be a rare accolade, awarded only to outstanding cameras. Qualifying it like this reduces the value of giving recommendations at all. Stick to Not Recommended for rubbish and/or overpriced (and use it!), Recommended for good and/or cheap and Highly Recommended for excellent.

We'll see about the IS on Superzooms affecting IQ or not. Certainly the IS Canon & Nikon superzooms are optically fairly modest performers according to the DPReview reports. Other sites have the Tamron 18-250 as being (relatively speaking) good in this respect. It will therefore be interestihng to see the comparison with the new 18-270mm stabilised lens from the same manufacturer.

The Canon non-IS 70-200mm appears to have better optical performance than the stabilised version, but the design demands there are more modest than for a 15:1 superzoom going from modest wide angle to telephoto.

'The Canon non-IS 70-200mm appears to have better optical performance than the stabilised version'

Only half-true I'm afraid - the non-IS F2.8 may be slightly sharper, but between the F4 lenses the situation is reversed. Any result in the Tamron 18-250 vs 18-270 comparison would equally be just another isolated data point, and not indicative of any general rule.

I fully understand that there's a desire in certain quarters to 'prove' once and for all that sensor-based image stabilisation is better/worse than lens-based, but as someone who's used both systems extensively, I can only say that the answer is a resounding 'it depends'. Both work, both have their advantages and disadvantages.

The moving group in IS lenses may have a slight negative effect on IQ, but equally the fact that a moving sensor necessarily tracks across areas the lens's image circle with slightly differing resolution and geometric distortion isn't going to help. In both cases the limiting factor is more likely the control system, and how accurately it can compensate for shake given the inevitable processing lag and the physical inertia of the sensor or IS group. Both systems let you get better images than without IS, but neither will be quite as good as using a tripod.

One interesting comparison for Canon lenses would be to review the two 85mm's (top-of-the-line 85L f/1.2 and more consumer-level 85mm f/1.8), as I'd say that people do ask about their relative quality every now and then.

I am curious to see how the Sony CZ 16-80 performs in comparison to the already tested Nikon, Canon and Sony (16-105) lenses in that range. Any intentions to test this lens in the near future?

I would love to the the Olympus 35-100mm f2 lens tested as part of the 70-200mm series.
Thank you for doing all of the work on the lens tests. 1300 pictures to do a test is a lot of work.

Thanks for a great site!

The new Planar T* 1.4/50 ZE from Carl Zeiss is another potential contender for your 50 mm prime lens lineup:

Another vote here for the 14-150 and 35-100 for four thirds :)

I would request the 25mm Pana/leica but to be fair you have already reviewed the Olympus 25mm (btw I would like to see a test added to this - the one click distortion correction in Olympus Studio to see if it consistently removes the barrel distortion you found. Not to mention wondering if there is benefit in the tiny lens hood available for it?)

So far you have evenly reviewed a range of lenses from the top three manufacturers, keep up the good work!

I personally would like to see more tests on the Full-frame A900, when paired with the Sony/Carl Zeiss 24-70 f/2.8 SSM Vario-Sonnar, the CZ 85mm f/1.4 Planar, the CZ 135mm f/1.8 Sonnar and the 70-300G SSM. Obviously the upcoming Carl Zeiss 16-35 f/2.8 SSM Vario-Sonnar is also of high interest to a lot of Sony users and other users who intend to pick up the A900.

Also, I hope you guys replace your older Minolta 50mm f/1.4 used in your camera tests, with either the newer Sony 50mm f/1.4 which has the digital coatings and also the ADI integration (8 contacts instead of the 5 contacts in the non-ADI version). This is especially important when testing the camera's SSS (steadyshot), since the SSS mechanism uses input from the ADI mechanism to fine-tune its performance.

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