In my last post I mentioned the possibility of learning more about the structure(s) and behaviour(s) within the dpreview forums through the process of developing a model to describe it. Well, developing models is hard-going, so I deciding to tackle it from a more interesting angle and spent some time attempting to represent forum activity graphically.
Digging a hole for one's self
How and where to start? Well, there are myriad metaphors for the concept of 'conversations', but I like to frame them as Darwinian competitions between ideas in which the 'fittest' ideas 'breed' more 'successful' responses thus carrying on the line (of conversation ;). Hence, my first attempt to create a graphical representation of forum activity involves representing a single conversation in a quasi-organic sense, to see whether it is reasonable to label such entities as 'growing' or 'evolving' (warning: metaphors may be mixed during the course of this post).
After initially experimenting with the processing visualization environment I abandoned it in favour of 'good old' Flash (lens widget induced trauma now mostly repressed). Next up, choosing the basic metaphor (plane, terrain, tree, radar)? Hmm, let's try a variation on the hyperbolic tree (naturally, you say). What to represent? ... ah, let's go with pedigree, generation and mutation (replies which have different subject line to their precursor). A few hours later and presto! Coloured graphs everywhere.
A thread is born
Let's try out this visualization widget by using it to represent a popular recent thread (To the team of DPreview: Do a more serious test of 50d!!! - Canon EOS 50D - 10D forum) in its early phases (6 hours after OP).
Visualization of the To the team of DPreview: Do a more serious test of 50d!!! thread (6 hours).
Colour represents time. Connections represent lineage. Distance from OP (black dot) represents 'generation'. Dots outlined in black represent changes of subject.
So what are we seeing here? It all begins with the black dot representing the original post (OP). Sprawling out from the OP are several dead-end responses and one dominant response (A) which has sparked some conversation. Interestingly this 'successful' response was the first in the thread to change the subject line (to "DPreview has done retesting 50D... Look").
So, can we predict anything about the ongoing development of the thread by looking at the above image? Well it's a fair bet that conversation is going to follow on from A or one of its descendants, though it's also worth keeping an eye on the more recent responses to the OP too (B & C, also sporting altered titles). Let's take a look at how things have progressed 35 hours on.
Visualization of the To the team of DPreview: Do a more serious test of 50d!!! thread (41 hours).
Colour represents time. Connections represent lineage. Distance from OP (black dot) represents 'generation'. Dots outlined in black represent changes of subject.
Forty-one hours in we can see that the An branch (descending from A) did in fact continue a little while longer but has now run cold, instead branches Bn (descending from B) and Cn (descending from C) dominate the landscape. Note also that several variations to the OP have occurred since B & C, with some small success, suggesting that the OP's potential hasn't been fully exploited. This becomes more apparent as the thread progresses.
Visualization of the To the team of DPreview: Do a more serious test of 50d!!! thread (59 hours).
Colour represents time. Connections represent lineage. Distance from OP (black dot) represents 'generation'. Dots outlined in black represent changes of subject.
Forty-five hours into the thread a response (D) to the OP appeared (with the altered subject line: "Future reviews from dpreview will loose value"). The offshoots of D immediately starving previously dominant branches (Bn, Cn) and remained dominant until the 150 post limit was reached.
Time well spent?
Besides learning more about the flash 9 drawing API (note to self, read up on flash 10 drawing API) this mini-project has given me a better understanding of some of the nuances of how dpreview forum threads typically unfold. Of course these colourful diagrams don't tell the whole story or even a noteworthy fraction of it, but they do depict some latent trends which can be investigated via other means. For example I'm keen to investigate further the idea that responses to 'cold' threads garner more interest if they sport new subject lines versus the standard 'Re: ' prefix (another post perhaps).
More
I've included a few more diagrams of other threads below (click thumbnails for larger versions). I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about any more patterns you think might be worth investigating. Also, if you've got an idea for a visualization approach which may highlight other aspects of the forum (and yield some more eye-candy to boot) let me know.





Интересеая содержательная заметка. Автору репект)))
Posted by: maximusdf | Dec 16, 2008 8:43:10 PM
Does anyone know how to join/register with the forums?
All I ever get a "rejection" based on my email....I have a paid-for, private, commercial email account but I don't seem to have an "ISP" account.
I have done business for many years with my commercial account ....but what is this "ISP" account and where do I purchase tis account?
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Thanks for any help and
...Merry Christmas to all.
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Posted by: Keith | Dec 23, 2008 9:33:29 PM
well, hi admin adn people nice forum indeed. how's life? hope it's introduce branch ;)
Posted by: cwxwwwxdfvwwxwx | Dec 25, 2008 5:35:36 PM
What a brilliant analysis with very colourful charts and diagrams, even though somehow, somewhere in the middle of one of the those that I was lost! 8-)
From the point of time management, can I suggest, for example, only threads that are constructive, worth reading be highlighted in “gold”; those that are concise and to the point in green; and those that are stale, pointless in grey. Alternatively, consider the use of apples, oranges, bananas, red chillies and rotten tomatoes as tags. 8-) I am sure it will be appreciated by people who wish to save time and get the most while on the website.
Last but not the least, best wishes to all at DP Review.
AW
Posted by: AW | Dec 29, 2008 11:19:18 AM
Will any of this stop posters replying to the wrong branch?
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Posted by: toxanton | Jan 6, 2009 9:31:12 AM
This is excellent indeed (from a very laymans' POV) - if this is what you do within an hour or two, I'd hate to let you loose for a month ;)
I would not even try to begin to comprehend the formulae behind it, but would like to possibly add this bit ...
If this becomes available (as a click here for thread graph option) would it be possible to include the subject/reply that caused the new branch/point of interest? Mbe title all the major branches as the thread goes along, and then make them selectable by clicking on that branch/point, taking us into the thread at that point?
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